The Nuclear Situation in Japan is Being Downplayed Internationally

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MargotLedbetter
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International media agencies have been forced to downplay the situation in Fukushima, Japan because they want their respective countries people not to start questioning the use of nuclear power.

Fact 45 percent of the children in Fukushima have thyroid damage, according to Japanese papers in the last few days.

100 percent of the bizarrely small sample of 15 people in Fukushima (including a 4 year old boy) had high levels of caesium in their urine.

Fact - milk, berries, mushrooms, green leaved veg/tea is being sold whilst being contaminiated.

Imagine if this happened in Selafield, UK, or California.

Please read up as much as you can about this, I would love to see more anti nuclear protests happening again in the world outside Japan. It did seem to start a little in March, then the media went dead on the subject and people stopped. Noone wants to be seen as a crazy person. To panic about this, and be concerned was painted in the media as being unpatriotic.

Dont let them manipulate you!

Dont let the vast machine win! We are not tabula rasa to write their own stories on! Protest!

 

 

kiakanpa
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I'd like to start by saying

I'd like to start by saying that I dont disagree with you.

But, with that said, where would giving up nuclear leave us? assuming that oil/coal/natural gas are all bad for the planet and finite, and that there is currently no feasable way to produce the volume of energy that we currently consume by 'green' methods (and there isn't).

Just interested to hear your view.

MargotLedbetter
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Im right here in the middle

Im right here in the middle of this, in Eastern Japan, Kia.

The fear of buying contaminated food, which is not being taken off shelves, of our children getting cancer, of birth defects, of this nuclear monster belching out all manner of radioactive particles leading people to be  displaced from their communities and homes has led me to re evaluate how we use energy.

 

Tokyo has turned of its light show, turned off or down the airconditioning, people are having to evaluate how much energy we have and how best to use it. Factories are having to work nights or weekends. Car production is having to be stepped down. We Do have enough energy as long as it is not wasted. Did you know that  2 vending machines use as much energy as one Tokyo household? We dont need them.  We have become wasteful and dependent.

If all surfaces were covered in solar energy panels, if people used wind energy, tidal power (which is now propping up Tokyo), and also reviewed their energy usage, then we would stop destroying our beautiful planet and start living sustainably rather than raping natural resources and making deals with nuclear devils. Japan can power itself with geothermal energy, beign on the ring of fire. Individual generators have helped a lot here as well. Necessity is the mother of invention, I bet if it was needed new and sustainable ways to power things on a personal level would be created.

We dont need microwaves, vacume cleaners, not even washing machines or tumble driers. The human race is not living within its means, we are consuming more and more and at a huge huge cost. Was one Chernobyl child worth that nuclear plant? Is one Fukushima child with thyroid damage worth all those Honda's that plant helped to make? What is more valuable?

We cannot continue to live in the way we have been. A disposable lifestyle is no longer sustainable, and never was. We do not need disposable plastic crap, nor wasteful luxury. Cars should be used until they are no longer drive-able, not thrown away. We dont need hundreds of thousands of new cars every year.

We will have deaths in Japan in the medium to long term due to Fukushima. Suffering, and those who suffer most are the unborn and the young.

Nuclear waste cannot be made safe, it has to be stored for thousands of years. What right do we have to do that to our children's children? When things go wrong - and they will always go wrong, we are fallible and money talks - then look at the results. The sea has been made toxic, the land ruined, people contaminated.

 

There is a word for ernergy conservation in Japanese - setsuden. There needs to be a world-wide effort towards setsuden, instead of burying our heads in the sand and only waking up to find we have destroyed everything we love by our inaction.

 

 

 

 

MargotLedbetter
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Let me add that life is hot

Let me add that life is hot and unpleasant right now in eastern Japan. Ild love to turn on the aircon, to 21 degrees and not melt in this humidity and heat. I dont want to have to sweep my floor, Ild much rather turn on the vacume cleaner. It is not pleasant to have to wash clothes by hand, and monitor hot water useage. But Ild rather live with nothing, in a shack with no electricity, than live with the possibility of another Fukushima.

I saw the flurry of media activity just stop as it became clear that people worldwide were going to protest against nuclear power. Far better to make anti nuclear protesters look like insane people, panickers, than anyone credible.

There is a movement in Japan, but its not enough. The people of Saga tried to protest against the nuclear power station being brought back on line, but the government made deals with local government in the area and forced it to go back online.

Just today there was a fire at another nuclear plant at Tokai number 2 reactor - not Fukushima. Was that even on the news outside of Japan?

 

 

 

kiakanpa
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I promise you I was not

I promise you I was not trying to belittle the situation in Japan - far from it.

I was more trying to highlight the issues which you have so eloquently expressed.

We have a government backed environmental movement in the uk to 'reduce, reuse and recycle' - of these three valid aims the only one which is in anyway actively worked on by either government or business is to recycle; reducing consumption or reusing available materials would negatively affect the economy.

It seems to me that you have the right mindset in relation to these issues - my hope here is that others will see this thread and realize quite how destructive the path we are on is.

MargotLedbetter
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Kia, I know you were not

Kia, I know you were not trying to belittle the situation, just start debate, Im sorry if I sounded harsh. I dont speak to people outside my own little family group very often, and fear I have forgotten how to do so! Please forgive me.

There is so much put into buying more and more stuff, things we do not need, using energy we do not have, to keep us all into good little sated sheep who work diligently so they can 'upgrade', and 'progress' to the next level of luxury and social acceptability. A little recycle campaign keeps the questions to the minimum. The general population is easily satisfied. Rather give us the outward appearance of 'caring' and 'protecting the environment' whilst selling our health and the health of our children and more importantly, our planet, down the river to the highest bidder.

I would love to see peaceful protests. Can you imagine what would happen if we all refused to play the game? If we all stopped buying the crap? What would happen if the people of Selafield made contact with those refugees from Fukushima and to honor their sacrifices protested nuclear power in their backyard? If we all refuse to be enslaved and poisoned what could the Big Government actually DO about it?

We have no individual choice about nuclear power, and it is as good a rallying cause as any to start from. What will it take for people to actually act peaceably to secure their future and the future of the planet?

MargotLedbetter
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Why no action?

When people see what happened in Japan and Chernobyl it astounds me that there is not a huge movement to shut down nuclear power stations.

To have to tape up your air ducts, strip and wash when you get back indoors, to have to queue for 2 bottles of water because the tap water has caesium and iodine 131 in it, to live in fear of cancer and birth defects because of widespread contamination, is too high a price to pay for nuclear power.

There will always be human errors, and forces of nature, is the risk worth it?

I never want to see another country go through this. I dread the future if the human race carries on like it is now.

 

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Skimmer's Comment: From my

Skimmer's Comment: From my standpoint if the government's of our world were willing to make the investment oil, coal, and natural gass could be given up and replaced with nuclear fission power generation complexes. We have the technology to create naturally cooling powerplants that operate on the proven fact that hot air rises. This would prevent such catastrophies as we saw in Japan as there would be no sea water to continually keep pumping into the powerplant to cool the fuel rods. Also people of intelligence should be involved in the planning of building more power plants so that they're not built on or near techtonic fault lines.

 

kiakanpa
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a better solution would be

a better solution would be geothermal plants - almost ideally suited to faultlines.